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Ghislaine Emrys
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PostSubject: Exit from Wickenburg   Exit from Wickenburg Icon_minitimeFri Jun 01, 2012 7:22 pm

So what plot types do you see in this episode? To start with, in the opening scenes I see the boys on a quest for justice, in that they want acknowledgment that they've been cheated and so they want their money back from the card sharps; a quest for a well-paying job, when they negotiate with Mary over their salary; and then a quest to find out who is trying to run them out of town.

What else is going on here???

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PostSubject: Re: Exit from Wickenburg   Exit from Wickenburg Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2012 12:03 am

Teeny tiny bit of overcoming the monster as Grendall/Sloane hides in the cave and the boys at least think he's going to emerge?? Well, not really. We half wonder if there IS a monster in the cave.

Quest as Ghis says obviously. We want our job back. Whodunnit?
For the viewer - Who's Sloane? Is Heyes right, is it him trying to run them out? Why? Quest-ey type questions. (It's a sort of whodunnit - and they're quests.)

Actually - y'know what I think - I think Exit from W is light on plot.
It's Whodunnit Quest - but at a slow pace, with time to enjoy the scenery and comic relief.
Which is FINE - because we get room for banter and for the boys to show their paces. Nice relaxed pace for them to have the 'but he does know I'm not Smith and you're not Jones' conv. Nice relaxed pace to watch them hammer. Utterley adorable scene with Willard the book-keeper.
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PostSubject: Re: Exit from Wickenburg   Exit from Wickenburg Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2012 2:32 am

Looking at the descriptions of the different plot types I'd have to classify this one as mostly comedy. Comedy is defined as a sympathetic central character overcoming difficulties to come out better in the end. Mary Cunningham is painted very sympathetically -- here she is the poor widow with young children trying to do her best to survive at something she is obviously unsuited for -- a position that has been thrust upon her by her husband's untimely death. Along come our heroes, who slay the dragon (Sloan) and get Mary the money she needs to start a new life back East -- a life she longs for and is better suited to.

Yes there is some overcoming the monster (Sloan/Plummer) and there are always quests -- but these are fairly minor ones here. As Calico notes this could be considered a slow action, lightly plotted story -- but really I think this one is in the nature of an Arthurian tale of "right makes might" and the knights errant slaying the dragon to rescue the damsel in distress. This was a good choice for an early episode in the show to set up our boys as do-gooders despite their outlaw natures. In this tale they are acting contrary to their own interests in order to help Mary, yet the actions they take and the ways they solve their dilemma reek strongly of the outlaws they are (threat of violence to Gorman and extortion with Sloan, plus breaking and entering at Sloan's house). The central plot, however, revolves around Mary's situation. Therefore, I'd classify it as a comedy.
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PostSubject: Re: Exit from Wickenburg   Exit from Wickenburg Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2012 5:24 am

Hope you don't mind if I jump in....I see this as more overcoming the monster. It does have a lot of the elements of comedy, too, but while I agree with Riders in many respects I don't see Mary as the central character. She is more of a catalyst to the tale. The whole town has been under the shadow of Sloane/Plummer as demonstrated in the scenes where his name is everywhere and he is an unknown, unseen presence overshadowing most of the episode. Of course, to find the monster there must be a bit of quest, too. This was the first episode where I felt that Heyes was portrayed as a hardened criminal capable of leading an outlaw gang.
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PostSubject: Re: Exit from Wickenburg   Exit from Wickenburg Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2012 6:42 am

I/O -- I don't disagree that Mary is the catalyst. The story does center on our boys rather than her. The problem is that Sloan really isn't much of a monster. While his name is everywhere -- there is no indication that that was a bad thing for the town or that the town is frightened or otherwise cowed by him. He's just the man with the money -- same as Big Mac in Red Rock and many other such folks in towns throughout the West. THe only people to whom he is a "monster" are HH and KC (and I agree he is a monster there).
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PostSubject: Re: Exit from Wickenburg   Exit from Wickenburg Icon_minitimeSat Jun 02, 2012 8:38 am

Riders: I'm not really talking monster in the literal sense. Sloane is a shadowy presence in the episode and the boys are seeking him throughout. Heyes slays the monster figuratively in the scene where he sets up Plummer to purchase the saloon. I really think there are all three elements here: monster, quest and comedy. I just saw it as primarily "monster". This is an interesting discussion because we all see and interpret things differently. I think I might have a wee bit of a problem with authority figures myself, hence my penchant for the outlaw days when writing.
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